Monday, August 18, 2014

The Biblical Round Earth

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Many have tried to associate the ancient idea of a flat earth with the Bible.
This is a vain attempt at debunking biblical authority.  Because if the Bible recorded the earths round shape then, revelation would be true.  If it fails then revelation fails.

job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place,
and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Here we see that the North horizon as well as the earth itself are placed upon nothing.   Outer Space is another term for nothing.  The pagan flat earther's typically assumed that earth was upon a foundation.  For instance Atlas or the tortoise etc.

 Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds,
until the day and night come to an end.
The water never ends just as the day and night cycle never ends.  Why would it go on forever? 

Because it is round!
Now one could ask about the alternative, an infinitely flat earth.  But then wouldn't the water fall off the edge?  Especially during the worldwide flood?
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Now this next passage clears that speculation up.
Psalm 22:4 Their line is gone out through all the earth,
and their words to the end of the world.
In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
His going forth is from the end of the heaven,
and his circuit unto the ends of it:
and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

  Here the sun is racing around the earth. [ Now many may pay attention to the problem of heliocentricity.  Though heliocentricist typically admit that the orbit of the earth is not an observable phenomena and hermeneutics teaches us that wisdom literature starts from a subjective viewpoint which helio centrist would admit as true subjectively.  Besides this the helio-centric geocentric debate breaks down to one's view of mathematics after all the heavenly bodies are all floating and I have yet to find a defense of the sun being truly un moving.]
   It is clear the sun is understood as singular and it finishes around the earth.  Note the word circuit.
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circuit
[ ˈsərkət ]
noun
  1. a roughly circular line, route, or movement that starts and finishes at the same place:
    "I ran a circuit of the village"
    synonyms: lap · turn · round · circle
verb
  1. move all the way around (a place or thing):
    "the trains will follow the northern line, circuiting the capital"
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One argument which flat-earthers have used is the phrase 4 corners of the earth.
Isaiah11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations,
and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel,
and gather together the dispersed of Judah
from the four corners of the earth.
  This would insinuate that the earth was square, but as we shall see, the earth is a circle (Isaiah 40:22)  This results in the flat earth model making the bible appear contradictory.   A spherical earth can have four corners east and west and north and south. 4 points being called 4 corners.  In the flat earth model the south is a circle and not a corner.  The north would be a center, not corner either(since it would be flat).
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And on the east side toward the rising of the sun shall they of the standard of the camp of Judah pitch throughout their armies: and Nahshon the son of Amminadab shall be captain of the children of Judah.
 Here we see that the sun riisin goes along the eatern plane.
Ecclesiastes 1: The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down,
and hasteth to his place where he arose.
 
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
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Rising and setting sun Ironically most flat earth models can not have the sun rising or going down.  But this is a clear teaching from the scriptures.



The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
and it shall be, that in the morning, as soon as the sun is up, thou shalt rise early, and set upon the city: and, behold, when he and the people that is with him come out against thee, then mayest thou do to them as thou shalt find occasion.
And he shall be as the light of the morning, when the sun riseth, even a morning without clouds; as the tender grass springing out of the earth by clear shining after rain.
that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways.

Sun going down 



And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.
And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.
And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep.
But Moses’ hands were heavy; and they took a stone, and put it under him, and he sat thereon; and Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands, the one on the one side, and the other on the other side; and his hands were steady until the going down of the sun.
If thou at all take thy neighbour’s raiment to pledge, thou shalt deliver it unto him by that the sun goeth down:
And when the sun is down, he shall be clean, and shall afterward eat of the holy things; because it is his food.
Are they not on the other side Jordan, by the way where the sun goeth down, in the land of the Canaanites, which dwell in the champaign over against Gilgal, beside the plains of Moreh?
but at the place which the Lord thy God shall choose to place his name in, there thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even, at the going down of the sun, at the season that thou camest forth out of Egypt.
but it shall be, when evening cometh on, he shall wash himself with water: and when the sun is down, he shall come into the camp again.
in any case thou shalt deliver him the pledge again when the sun goeth down, that he may sleep in his own raiment, and bless thee: and it shall be righteousness unto thee before the Lord thy God.
at his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go down upon it; for he is poor, and setteth his heart upon it: lest he cry against thee unto the Lord, and it be sin unto thee.
From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.
And the king of Ai he hanged on a tree until eventide: and as soon as the sun was down, Joshua commanded that they should take his carcase down from the tree, and cast it at the entering of the gate of the city, and raise thereon a great heap of stones, that remaineth unto this day.
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
And it came to pass at the time of the going down of the sun, that Joshua commanded, and they took them down off the trees, and cast them into the cave wherein they had been hid, and laid great stones in the cave’s mouth, which remain until this very day.
And the men of the city said unto him on the seventh day before the sun went down, What is sweeter than honey? and what is stronger than a lion? And he said unto them, If ye had not plowed with my heifer, ye had not found out my riddle.
And they passed on and went their way; and the sun went down upon them when they were by Gibeah, which belongeth to Benjamin.
Thus they inclosed the Benjamites round about, and chased them, and trode them down with ease over against Gibeah toward the sunrising.
Joab also and Abishai pursued after Abner: and the sun went down when they were come to the hill of Ammah, that lieth before Giah by the way of the wilderness of Gibeon.
And when all the people came to cause David to eat meat while it was yet day, David sware, saying, So do God to me, and more also, if I taste bread, or ought else, till the sun be down.
And there went a proclamation throughout the host about the going down of the sun, saying, Every man to his city, and every man to his own country.
2 Chronicles 18:34 And the battle increased that day: howbeit the king of Israel stayed himself up in his chariot against the Syrians until the even: and about the time of the sun going down he died.

 

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4 corners?

luke 13:29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God."
 Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel,
and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."  Some flat-earthers will alledge the four corners of the earth as proving it to be a square.  but here christ is speaking of the same gathering as Isaiah and he identifies the 4 directions North, South, East and west.


Resurrection Sun rise
Genesis 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen."
  The same language is used for the sun rising as resurrection.


Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,
and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;
that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain,
and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
     Here we See the Lord sitting upon the "circle" of the earth.  So the earth is round.  God would be sitting upon the northside.
Now some argue that this circle could only be translated as a 2 dimension disk.  however it has been translated 3 dimensionally. 
Isiais 40:
22 El está asentado sobre el globo de la tierra, cuyos moradores son como langostas: él extiende los cielos como una cortina, tiéndelos como una tienda para morar:"
globo meaning globe shows hitoric precedent to the round earth view.

job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place,
and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
  Since there is nothing underneath the earth it would be round as well.  One more dimension to complete the spherical shape is the bounds of the sea is equated with the Day and Night's own end.
And so the biblical earth is and always has been a round globe!

In Christ,
Matt

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